just so this doesn’t overwhelm our front page too much, i think now’s a good time to start consolidating discussions. existing threads will be kept up, but unless a big update comes let’s try to keep what’s happening in this thread instead of across 10.

developments to this point:

The Verge is on it as usual, also–here’s their latest coverage (h/t @[email protected]):

other media coverage:

    • DarbyDearEnglish
      26•2 years ago

      This was the moment that cemented my choice to move away from Reddit. My plan initially was to see how the blackouts would play out, but this showed even more clearly than the initial thread about Apollo’s woes with Reddit just how garbage the decision-making at Reddit is.

        • @[email protected]English
          1•2 years ago

          Remember to check that it stayed deleted. My account rolled back my deletions. Possibly due to “stability”

    • maegul (he/they)English
      20•2 years ago

      Wait what! Things have gotten this bad!? Like, this actually happened? I’m guessing there was no follow up question.

      I mean, it’s either a dumb corporate strategy to discredit or psychopathic behaviour, or, sadly, both.

      • @[email protected]English
        23•2 years ago

        Yup it did

        Also something weird, when I saw this combo, iamthatis was the first reply. Now it’s way down there, despite the upvotes and gilds.

        I really don’t like putting on the tin foil hat, but since spez admitted in the past that he changed other users comments, I’m calling it, this guy is still messing around with things behind the scenes

          • @[email protected]English
            6•2 years ago

            doesnt that require monetary losses?

            sure, he lost out revenue from the spp, but that is due to the api changes and not due to the libel. might be difficult to argue otherwise, but Im also not a lawyer

            • @[email protected]English
              9•2 years ago

              In the US, with slander and libel, there are two standards.

              If someone is a public figure, they need to show actual damages in order to be successful, this is the scenario you’re describing.

              If you are not a public figure, then you can sue for slander or libel without needing to show actual damages, just harm to your reputation or similar.

              So the answer on that turns on whether Christian Selig is a public figure or not - I do not know the answer to that question.

              • PetriEnglish
                5•2 years ago

                IANAL but even though their statements are “in public” but I doubt either of them would qualify as public figures - that is reserved for politicians and such.

                That being said, spez here seems to have actually slandered iamthatis. This occurred when when spez claimed that iamthatis was “blackmailing” reddit for 10M$, which incidentally lead iamthatis to post audio recordings proving that spez was lying.

                Maybe I’ve got some of those details wrong, so correct me if I am.

              • @[email protected]English
                1•2 years ago

                Christian is Canadian so the laws might be a bit different. I know a few people in Reddit mentioned that the laws would be more favorable to Christian since he’s Canadian, but I’m not a lawyer so I don’t know how accurate that is.

            • @[email protected]English
              7•2 years ago

              I think it can be just damage to your reputation but yeah… not sure really 😕

              Any lawyers reading this?

    • MoodyCat
      6•2 years ago

      Christian also responded to another comment made my Spez